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  • Aug. 12th, 2017
  • xax: purple-orange {11/3 knotwork star, pointed down (Default)
    [personal profile] xax
    posted @ 01:03 am

    i'm still messing around with farm game outlining stuff, just kinda trying to collect ideas and get everything worked out. but this is involving a lot of looking up stuff to see how it works. "how do you actually make olives edible" "what's the difference between wild olive and cultivated olive" "how do you make glass" "what's a marshmallow actually" (i mean the plant)

    so back in the day to make glass they blew a big bubble and spun it around to flatten it, and then they cut rectangles out of it. this is why the glass in real old houses can be thicker at the bottom and thinner on the top. the way we get flat modern glass is by floating molten glass on top of a bed of molten metal

    also glass made just from sand is likely gonna be discolored, yellow glass or green glass or whatever. modern clear glass is generally soda-lime glass, so named because in addition to the actual silica it's got soda and lime in it. i have no clue how you'd refine those. and it's not really relevant i think b/c that's substantially outside the bounds of "farming game"

    also olive trees are real complicated, let me tell you

    also i guess candied marshmallow roots were a thing, that eventually got supplanted by an eggwhite merangue flavored with rose hips, leading ultimately to the modern marshmallow confection.

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      posted @ 07:48 pm (UTC)

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      I like hearing about this stuff. Creative and inventive, and oddly.. hmm.. homemade. Pleasantly down to Earth? And candied marshmallow roots sound cute and kind of magical?

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      posted @ 10:08 pm (UTC)

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      yeah, like, i think a lot of the appeal of farming games in the harvest moon style is about this AUTHENTIC, RUSTIC location? life without any of the complexity of, you know, society and supply chains and resource depletion. so even if you're refining glass you're doing it by yourself, in small locally-sourced artisinal batches, with tools you made yourself. and i have... mixed feelings about that (primitivism or rejection of modernity as having somehow 'lost its way' or whatever) but there is a core there that's nice to think about.

      one of the standbys i've been looking at to kinda ground the technology is uh jōmon period japan? right after they figured out how to make pottery, and had a huge population explosion b/c suddenly they could store food for long periods of time. so you have pottery and glazes and cord-wrapped pots and tools that use antler and bone and coral, lacquers and varnishes, etc. it turns out there's a lot of stuff you can make with early bronze age technology.

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      posted @ 11:12 pm (UTC)

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      I'm familiar with the appearance and ancient time of Jomon, though I forget the simplest things all the time argh. Like "no duh having airtight storage makes food last longer, stupid!"

      I would avoid overrrrthinking the implied message of the mechanics? .. Even though that *can* be a thing, the most extreme examples I can think of are Ananda Gupta's boardgames implying neocon theory works though he disagrees vehemently with them irl... stuff like that?

      In any case, even if that is the goal, a more primitive, hardy life being the best life or w/e.. then whatever. It's a release. For people like me, the idea of farming and cooking literally every day, including butchery and fishing, might as well be a fantasy world to me.

      Not sure what I'm getting at. I guess that... I think you'll present it in a light that is both real and enjoyably refreshing (exotic, in other words?) idk. ugh.

      I just love stuff like that. Hearing stories about how food was made and stuff. Like gumbo. Gumbo might as well be leftovers-soup for the most part? And how it evolved into so many different forms.. but idk.

      I really really really like good food made from curious ingredients that would normally seem... plain or even strange. Like the roots stuff? Making roots into a treat, and a good one at that? I love it.

      Making me sort of think of broken pottery and re-assembling it. Taking the ugly and making it special.

      Wow what a ramble.

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