i can't believe i'm listening to 2 gryphon ~rant~ in 2017
xax: wait did 2 gryphon actually make a video about how the furry fandom is dead
xax: i wonder if his shtick has changed at all since like 2001
xax: "the life and death of the furry fandom"
xax: okay so his thesis seems to be that furry was originally about furries and that it's been diluted by uhhhhhh unrelated anime and fetish and my little pony stuff to the point where it's more a "this is a collection of weird fetish shit" fandom
xax: which is like
xax: a very 1990s complaint about furry tbh
xax: burning furs etc
xax: w/ his constant refrain being like fetish people coming in and true furries being like "well, that's not really _furry_" and the fetish people being "oh how dare you, i IDENTIFY as blah blah blah", complete with the emphasis on 'identify'. and like that is a very modern phrasing. 2 are you mad about furry becoming a queer scene. b/c that is also a very 90s complaint
xax: "that brings us up to about 2014. now, suddenly we got people coming in who are saying 'well i'm a furry'. what makes you a furry? 'well cuz i am-- because i'm into gender politics; because i have this certain mindset about gender and equality'. well that's not really what furry is about. 'how dare you tell me we don't belong!!'" CALLED IT
xax: "suddenly now you can show up in a suit of armor with a hang glider and a chess board under your arm and the first question will be 'well who did you vote for'"
xax: "however if you show up in a full fursuit and comic books and an interest in furries, but you have a MAGA hat on, nope get out you're not a furry, you're a nazi, you're a racist"
xax: i feel like 2 had a very bad reaction to "maybe we should kick out that fursuiter w/ a confederate flag fursuit"
xax: "in the beginning we all knew each other; we all knew what a furry was. it was safe, it was... it was wonderful. we just hung out. we didn't even ASK people what their religion was, what their ideology was, what their political ideals were, what their GENDER SPECTRUM (emphasis original) was. it didn't matter! because the point was that we left those differences aside." like yeah dude that's how we ended up with 'nazifur' as a commonly-recognized type of fur
xax: wait did 2 gryphon actually make a video about how the furry fandom is dead
xax: i wonder if his shtick has changed at all since like 2001
xax: "the life and death of the furry fandom"
xax: okay so his thesis seems to be that furry was originally about furries and that it's been diluted by uhhhhhh unrelated anime and fetish and my little pony stuff to the point where it's more a "this is a collection of weird fetish shit" fandom
xax: which is like
xax: a very 1990s complaint about furry tbh
xax: burning furs etc
xax: w/ his constant refrain being like fetish people coming in and true furries being like "well, that's not really _furry_" and the fetish people being "oh how dare you, i IDENTIFY as blah blah blah", complete with the emphasis on 'identify'. and like that is a very modern phrasing. 2 are you mad about furry becoming a queer scene. b/c that is also a very 90s complaint
xax: "that brings us up to about 2014. now, suddenly we got people coming in who are saying 'well i'm a furry'. what makes you a furry? 'well cuz i am-- because i'm into gender politics; because i have this certain mindset about gender and equality'. well that's not really what furry is about. 'how dare you tell me we don't belong!!'" CALLED IT
xax: "suddenly now you can show up in a suit of armor with a hang glider and a chess board under your arm and the first question will be 'well who did you vote for'"
xax: "however if you show up in a full fursuit and comic books and an interest in furries, but you have a MAGA hat on, nope get out you're not a furry, you're a nazi, you're a racist"
xax: i feel like 2 had a very bad reaction to "maybe we should kick out that fursuiter w/ a confederate flag fursuit"
xax: "in the beginning we all knew each other; we all knew what a furry was. it was safe, it was... it was wonderful. we just hung out. we didn't even ASK people what their religion was, what their ideology was, what their political ideals were, what their GENDER SPECTRUM (emphasis original) was. it didn't matter! because the point was that we left those differences aside." like yeah dude that's how we ended up with 'nazifur' as a commonly-recognized type of fur
